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UPDATED APRIL 19, 2011 – The Presbytery of deChristo voted on Saturday to a 62-62 tie – which counts as a collective “no” vote – becoming the third presbytery to turn away from supporting elimination of the fidelity-chastity ordination requirement (in 2009 it voted 59-48 to overturn the policy).
However, given that 16 presbyteries have reversed their vote in the opposite direction, time is running out for those who hope to retain the constitutional prohibition adopted in 1997 that has denied ordination of all those sexually active outside of heterosexual marriage. The proposed new Form of Government amendment continues to hold a slim lead in presbytery voting. The Belhar Confession is drawing a solid majority, but it continues to track just below the two-thirds margin required to be added to The Book of Confessions. So far, 80 presbyteries have voted to support Amendment 10-A, which would delete from the PC(USA) constitution the requirement that candidates for ordination practice “fidelity in marriage between a man and a woman or chastity in singleness.” Sixty (60) presbyteries have disapproved the amendment. Compared to the last round (in 2008-09) of voting on that proposed change, sixteen (16) presbyteries have switched from opposition to support, while three (3) presbyteries have withdrawn their support. Passage of the amendment requires 87 affirmative votes, including a minimum of net nine presbyteries to switch from opposition to support, so the net change so far of 13 presbytery votes indicates a strong trend toward passage. Thirty-four presbyteries have yet to vote. Support for the proposal to replace the Form of Government section of the denomination’s Book of Order holds a slim 72-62 margin. A simple majority of 87 votes is needed for approval, and 48 presbyteries have yet to vote. Support for adding the Belhar Confession to The Book of Confessions leads 68-43 in voting so far. The confession was written to guide the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa and was recently adopted by the Reformed Church in America and will be considered at the 2012 general synod meeting of the Christian Reformed Church in North America. The proposal to add it to The Book of Confessions requires support by two-thirds (116) of the presbyteries to pass. Of the presbyteries that have voted, 61 percent have endorsed its adoption. In order to pass, 48 of the 62 presbyteries that have yet to vote on the proposal must approve it. For final adoption, the 2012 General Assembly must also approve the change. Summary as of April 19, 2001 | Amendment | Yes | No | Needed for approval | | Ordination Standards | 80 | 60 | 87 | | New FOG | 72 | 62 | 87 | | Belhar Confession | 68 | 43 | 116 | Do you want to track the voting on these amendments? The official tabulation of votes is managed by the Office of the General Assembly (OGA). Some affiliated advocacy organizations are also tracking the votes on their Web pages. Office of the General Assembly
Covenant Network – which supports ratification
Presbyterian Coalition – which opposes ratification |
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Peace
I remain a sinner, but I am confident that God has forgiven me. And I live in joy because of it.
I must agree with the first getleman that responded to your post. You do seem a bit arch and condescending. But I would really want to know what one thing has to do with another.
I would ask you about Jesus' reply to the woman caught in adultery, as so many have tried to hit me over the head with it. Jesus told the woman that He wasn't going to condemn her. But He also told her to go, and "sin no more." Does the fact that the we know the world is round void the word of Christ? Hardly.
As for reparation therapy being harmful, I haven't heard the information that leads to your making the claim, but unless Scott is damaged and doesn't know it, it would seem your assertion is suspect. I do know that I don't think the therapy is effective; the only thing that will change a person at this level is the grace of God. Yes, we possess so much more knowledge in this day, but the wisdom of man is nothing when compared to God and His Son.
Holly, What part of "love your neighbor as yourself is confusing." The world is no longer flat.and
Excuse me for being so blunt, but you both are still fighting a a cause that is harmful to others if not yourselves, and has long since discredited.
At the same time, the truth is this vote is not about sex. It is about the "renewing of our minds" and obedience to revealed Word. Unrepentent gayfolk are simply sinners, like we all were once.
I understand that we all interpret the Bible differently. However, the web site you refered us to does not even appear to be Christian. At best it is Universalist. Don't think this is where we should be getting hermeneutics/exegesis from. Here are some other thoughts from the site:
"All, or almost all, theistic religions are "bottom-up" faiths. That is, their beliefs, practices and holy books are the creation of humans trying to comprehend the deity or deities that they have created.
Few, if any, of the theistic religions are "top-down" faiths. That is, their beliefs, practices and holy books represent revelation from God to humanity."
This site describes dozens of faith groups, from Asatru to Christianity to Wicca to Zoroastrianism. We cover new religious movements, including dangerous cults. We describe non-theistic ethical belief systems, like Agnosticism, Atheism and Humanism."
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-- Bob Gillette
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