Comments for Why not replace (or retain) G-6.0106b? at http://www.pres-outlook.com , comment 1 to 1 out of 1 comments http://www.pres-outlook.com Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:17:27 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.pres-outlook.com/reports-a-resources3/presbyterian-heritage-articles3/8072-why-not-replace-or-retain-g-60106b.html#comment-4520 This writer is neither cold nor hot, but lukewarm. (Rev 3) Remember that the word 'laodicea' means "human rights" or the "rights of the people." When a person or church is lukewarm, they are acting or governing by their will, not God's will; and they are doing it to satan's delight, whether they realize it or not. The article seems to state that changing the wording of the bylaws wasn't really pressing because it "does not have the legal force to prevent governing bodies from ordaining qualified persons of their choosing." I also found the writer's "costs of the battle over constitutional change" input to be upsetting, in that, she's saying 'if we change the wording, conservative Christians will leave, but if we leave it, we can still install LGBT persons if we deem them okay in our eyes"-- so to speak. The conservative Christians leaving the church would hinder "the goal of full acceptance for LGBT persons in the church and wider society;" which, incidentally, I do not want to be any part of. I am of the opinion, that this is purely satan's foot in door to spread evil, and thereby condemn people to hell, while they're under the impression they're saved. The very idea that this person is saying 'we'll use the church to spread acceptance of this immoral behaviour.' It reminds me of a Beth Moore study, when she gave us the definition of 'apoleia' which she said means "losing, loss, the state after death wherein exclusion from salvation is a realized fact." The writer also speaks of conservatives receiving their news from talk radio, and therefore, we become "poorly-informed conservative Presbyterians," "before church leaders have a chance to interpret and explain." I'd rather like to think of us as the group that hasn't been brainwashed by satan's lies, and I don't want someone like this writer intrepting the Bible to me. She is worried over media attention and how it will hurt the LGBT's; how about the fact that the media attention reminds the world that Christians believe the Word of God & do take it literally. If I don't take the Word literally, then I suppose a sexual love affair with the family dog could be considered by some as okay. The Bible speaks against homosexual behaviour quite a bit. As Christians, we are called to be accepting of people, but not of their behaviour when it is in conflict with the Word. Each one of us has sin in our lives, and in love through Christ we should be able to confront these sins together to make us stronger in Christ. "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent." Rev 3:19 - Carla Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:50:22 +0100