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Scott Anderson approved for ordination
Written by Leslie Scanlon, Outlook national reporter   
 John Knox Presbytery has voted to ordain to the ministry Scott D. Anderson, a gay man who has been in a committed relationship for close to two decades, and who declared a conscientious objection to the requirement in the ordination standards of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) that those being ordained practice fidelity if they are married or chastity if they are single.

Meeting in Madison, Wis., on Feb. 20, John Knox voted 81-25 to ordain Anderson, who currently is executive director of the Wisconsin Council of Churches. He previously worked as a pastor and set aside his ordination in 1990 after two members of the congregation he was then serving in California publicly revealed that he is gay.

There will be a challenge to the presbytery’s action, said Whitman Brisky, a lawyer who has represented opponents to the ordination.

That could mean that Anderson’s case will put before the Presbyterian church courts a central question flowing from the work of the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the PC(USA): whether someone can declare an objection of conscience to the fidelity-and-chastity standard.

The theological task force – of which Anderson was a member – suggested an authoritative interpretation, which the General Assembly adopted in 2006, which allows candidates for ordination to declare a “scruple,” or an objection based on conscience, to the PC(USA)’s ordination standards.

The governing body responsible for ordaining then must decide whether that objection violates an essential of Reformed faith and practice. If the determination is that it does not, the candidate can be ordained.

In an interview, Anderson said he’s scheduled his ordination service for May 15, but expects the court challenge likely will bring a stay of enforcement, and a delay in his ordination as the case works its way through the church courts.

Brisky said the central point likely to be raised in a challenge to the presbytery’s action is that the Book of Order “has a mandatory provision that a person engaged in a sexual relationship outside of marriage cannot be ordained and installed.” A majority of presbyteries have supported that, Brisky said, and “the General Assembly cannot by itself . . . make that go away without amending the constitution” of the denomination.

He said the challenge likely will be brought by the session of Caledonia Presbyterian, a small, evangelical church in Portage, Wisc., and by some minister members of John Knox presbytery.

In an interview, Anderson said he was surprised by the wide margin of the vote – “we expected the vote would be closer than that.”

He said the John Knox action “made me proud to be a Presbyterian.” Anderson also said the vote “vindicates the recommendation of the Peace, Unity and Purity task force, that Presbyterians can consider candidates who have departures for whatever reason, and a presbytery can successfully weigh all that in the context of someone’s fitness for ministry. This works – it can work. And I think that’s good news.”

Both Brisky and Anderson described the presbytery’s leadership as fair and even-handed, although Brisky said he was “very disappointed” in the presbytery’s decision to close Anderson’s examination and its discussion of his candidacy to the public. Brisky said opponents of the ordination told the presbytery leadership in advance that they wanted the proceedings to be recorded, so an accurate record would be kept of what was said and done.

Although opponents of Anderson’s ordination did not prevail on that, however, Brisky said “the leadership of Knox presbytery tried to make this procedurally fair and open and honest, so as not to be oppressive. Although we were disappointed with the closing of the meeting and the lack of a transcript, the leadership was trying to be responsible.”

In an earlier interview, Brisky said the hope was to “get a clean, procedurally-exemplary examination” of Anderson, so that the General Assembly Permanent Judicial Commission -- the highest court in the PC(USA) – can perhaps rule on the central question of the case, not on procedural technicalities. “We hope the GAPJC will get the chance to rule on a pretty clean case,” Brisky said.

Anderson, 54, praised John Knox’s “extraordinary leadership,” saying “they have been fair and transparent and open and gracious to everyone, including me. I’ve been extraordinarily well-treated. I’ve been extraordinarily well-treated by those who oppose my ordination, which speaks well for the presbytery . . . I long for the whole church to have that relationship.”

Anderson also said the vote may give hope to other gay and lesbian candidates for ministry, although “I’m not sure I would wish this on a 25-year-old who just graduated from seminary. That would be really tough.”


DECLARING SCRUPLES

While some cases have emerged over the past four years of gay or lesbian candidates declaring scruples – most noticeably, Paul Capetz in Minnesota and Lisa Larges in California – their cases differ in some respects from Anderson’s.

Anderson has been open in saying that he lives in a committed relationship of close to 20 years with his life partner, Ian MacAllister. He said he told the presbytery that “if the state of Wisconsin granted us the privilege of a civil marriage license, Ian and I would be first in line to sign up.”

Capetz, on the other hand, is a gay theology professor who told his presbytery he was not in a relationship – but refused for theological reasons to take a vow of celibacy.

Capetz had set aside his ordination as a minister in 2000, in protest over the fidelity and chastity standards, then applied for reinstatement by the Presbytery of the Twin Cities Area after the General Assembly approved the recommendations of the Theological Task Force. Capetz told the presbytery he was not in a relationship, but for theological reasons would not promise to follow in a future relationship the fidelity and chastity standard. In November 2009, the General Assembly Permanent Judicial Commission allowed his ordination to stand, stating that Capetz had taken no action in violation of the standard – he just wouldn’t take a vow of celibacy, which is nowhere prescribed for ordinands.

In the future, the court ruled, “if there is any question about Capetz’ conduct, including whether he has led a life in obedience to Scripture and in compliance with the historic confessional standards of the church, he, like any other officer of the church, may be held accountable for his conduct under the Rules of Discipline.”

And Larges, a lesbian candidate for ministry, declared a conscientious objection before she was examined by San Francisco presbytery. The General Assembly Permanent Judicial Commission ruled, also in November, that Larges could not declare a conscientious objection before she was examined by the presbytery, and nullified a November 2008 vote in which the presbytery had declared her “ready for examination . . . with a departure” from the standards.

So Anderson’s case may be the first to come before the church courts involving a scruple declared by a gay or lesbian in a committed, long-term partnership.

In his statement to John Knox presbytery, Anderson wrote that he does not believe it’s either biblical or faithful to exclude from ordained office gays and lesbians in covenanted, lifelong partnerships. He offered a series of reasons – drawing from both the Bible and the Book of Confessions, including an affirmation that, as shown in Genesis, “we are born for relationship.”

He wrote that “God has blessed me with a faithful and loving partner who has been an integral part of my life for the last 19 years. In our life together we have sought to cultivate the kind of fidelity and love and self-giving that the Bible lifts up as God’s intention for married couples.”

And Anderson wrote that he believes the categorical prohibition in the PC(USA)’s ordination standards now “represents a grievous misapplication of biblical teachings in the case of gay and lesbian believers who are in faithful, covenanted, lifelong partnerships. For the reasons stated above, I believe this misinterpretation of the biblical witness is unfaithful to God’s loving intentions for humankind, and seriously undermines the church’s gospel witness to gay and lesbian persons. I cannot in Christian conscience support it.”

During his examination, Anderson said, he was asked one question that touched on sexual practice in his relationship with MacAllister.

“I expected to be asked about my sexual practice. I have thought and prayed about this a lot,” he said in the interview. “I told the pastor who asked it I’m in a dilemma here. On the one hand, I think I’ve been very clear with the presbytery about the fact that I’m in a long-term, committed relationship. I have not taken a vow of celibacy,” and he and MacAllister view their relationship as being like a marriage.

But for him to answer questions about sexual practice “number one, violates Ian’s privacy” and it “violates the decorum of the presbytery in my view to get into that sort of detail. And finally, for me to answer those sorts of detailed questions puts me into a position of being subjected to a line of questioning that no other candidate has been subjected to in John Knox. That’s where I left it . . . I think it’s unjust to be singled out,” in a way that no heterosexual candidate, single or married, has ever been.

But Brisky said that from what he was told of the examination, “we have a very clear record that he has admitted the sexual relationship.”

Through the years, Anderson said in the interview, he’s resisted suggestions from some that he switch and become a minister in a denomination that does allow gays and lesbians to serve.

Since he first began working as a minister, “my sense of call certainly has not diminished over all that time,” Anderson said. “I left I 1990 because to stay and be out of the closet serving a parish would have made me a lightning rod. I decided I didn’t want to go through that, nor the church I was serving,” which would have been damaged by that ordeal. “But my sense of call to ministry – if anything, it’s grown.”

If he is ordained by the PC(USA), Anderson said he hopes to return to parish ministry at some point. “I think it really is the best context for the fullest expression of my gifts. I feel very blessed to be working ecumenically. This has been an ideal situation for me . . . It’s given me some distance from the denomination. My own healing process has been allowed to happen. But there are things about parish ministry I miss terribly – being part of a congregation and experiencing the crises in people’s lives, and when faith really matters, walking with people in that context.”

The decision to seek ordination again in the PC(USA) has been a decision as much the heart as of the head, Anderson said.

“I just feel this church is part of my DNA. It’s not a rational decision, really. It’s a sense of call to stay and be part of this church.”
 

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#40 chas jay 2010-04-17 12:06
I noticed you said Spirit. Which one? It's not the doing of the Holy Spirit. I notice that this is all about their needs, not God's needs. Maybe with what they deem is good will mean different uses for communion tables in our churches. Since all of this is supposedly so good, why not an "S&M Leather Sunday" once a year to celebrate the greatness of this sexual expression? Will "party favors" become a part of Sunday worship?
From the March 2009 More Light newsletter: "Insisting upon compulsory heterosexuality or the imposition of celibacy for full participation and service in our Church is a scandal to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and a barrier to the realization of God’s realm. How can we expect people to love themselves, others and even God if we are not willing to remove such prejudice in our hearts and church laws?"
I had to put on hip boots to wade into that newsletter to read such nonsense. We imposed on God to sacrifice His Son to pay for our sins, yet the More Lights call it scandalous that celibacy be imposed on them. What utter, narcissistic nonsense. There is also no civil right to be ordained. Another thing, this bit about wanting an inclusive church, well, you need to bring that up with Christ because He said "I am the way, the truth and the Light. No man comes to the Father but by me." That is anything but inclusive. Part of the More Light creed is that there are many paths. Well, then they are saying Jesus is a liar since He says He is the only way.
You and the more lights use the term "diversity" quite a bit. Well, there is nothing diverse about two men or two women, or however many of the same sex share in the bed. True diversity was ordained by God in the blessing of the union between a man and a woman. The two different bodies of opposite sexes joined together.
While we're at it, why don't you and some of your friends get the whole truth out there about your beliefs that Jesus was sexually active. Oh, and why don't you tell us about the intolerance that the More Lights and their friends have towards people that leave the gay lifestyle. They call ministries for people wanting to leave the lifestyle as "dangerous." Funny how they never mention the fact how dangerous gay sex is, just that these ministries are dangerous. As I said in a previous post, maybe I know a little bit about this subject matter as well.
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#39 Tom Eggebeen 2010-04-17 08:34
Right now, huge changes are occurring in the evangelical world. More and more evangelicals are coming out of the closet, and more and more evangelical leaders are changing their minds and hearts. But it's not easy, for sure. Hard positions and lines drawn in cement are not easily modified. But it's happening, for who can resist the Spirit? It's a good day for those who have prayed long and hard for more light, a good day for those who welcome it, and very painful for others who have fought so hard against it.

With the ordination of women came dire threats about the demise of the church; earlier, with abolition, came a civil war. But in the end, love prevails, the gospel remains and God is glorified. Things always change. And there will likely be other struggles ahead of us, but as of now, as we did with the earlier ordination questions regarding women and the social question of abolition, the church will find its way, and as with women ordained and the social questions of civil rights mostly answered, the ordination of LGBT persons will bring a new and healthier day to the church of Jesus Christ.
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#38 chas jay 2010-04-15 14:12
Wow! So very sad the state of supposed believers in this denomination. Being obedient to the PCUSA Book of Order and the Scripture is now akin to those that were obedient to Hitler. Really? If it is about love, then why can't they love someone of the opposite sex as a lifelong partner. Or are they incapable of truly loving? No, they are not "dying to self" and wanting to continue their own lustful desires and now say they are good, in spite of what the scripture says. See, I can't get away from what the scripture says, but of course, that gets thrown away as being a "myth" from those that want these changes made to the church. Since you threw away obedience, you have told me that being obedient to God is not virtuous either. That's a very small god you worship, Jill Anne. More like the image of Jill Anne, than the God that made the universe. Jill Anne, I found your response to be rather condescending, much like those in the More Light movement. It's as if you are wiser than all of of those that were before you including Christ Himself. Lastly, the dotted line was signed when they wanted to remain in the denomination. If you don't like the rules, why is it that we must change them to meet their needs as opposed to them just obiding by them?
Lastly, maybe I know a little bit more about this subject matter than you do.
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#37 Jill Anne 2010-03-14 16:27
I get twitchy when obedience whistles up rockweilers to resolve a dispute. And Jesus said, "sell all that you have and give it to the poor." And the rich young ruler went away unhappy and Jesus was unhappy too. We get terribly selective about what we want to obey or ignore. Interestingly, though, the virtues that were codified o so long ago by Aquinas and Sons (not daughters, then, alas), don't list "obedience" as a virtue at all! Fancy that. Now, as I recall, there were the theological virtues - faith, hope, and charity (caritas, actually, agape, so Paul) and the greatest of those was love/caritas/agape. Now those virtues come directly from God and enter into the soul. There's nothing we can do on that score. God pours them into us. We can't learn 'em in school or in board rooms or in sex manuals or through fossil records. That's God stuff, period. And then there are the cardinal (hinge) virtues - prudence, justice, fortitude and temperance - and those are something we can generate and sustain through practice. In fact, virtues are habits to practice over and over again. And "obedience" isn't one of 'em. Thank God. I say, "thank God," because an obedient person does not think very often or well upon the consequences on what he or she does to others as a result of that "obedience." There are times to obey and times to disobey. I'm sorry, Chas Jay, but obedience and slaughter may be pals. It was the Barmen Declaration that called Christians back to their boss, "Christ," and not to Hitler. Not to obey Hitler was Christlike, to obey was murderous. A parting shot: A motto of the Enlightenment, from where we get our marching orders as a free people was, "Test all authorities." We've forgotten that one. Time to remember that authorities need be legitimate before we sign on the dotted line. Time to refer to the real boss, even Christ, whose order was "love."
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#36 Chas Jay 2010-03-12 21:48
John 14:15, Jesus says "If you love me, obey my commandments." Colossians 3:22 says "Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eye-service, as men pleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;"
Seeing that Christ commanded us to be obedient, it is of utmost importance that we do obey in order to show our love for Him. Disregarding obedience is not Christlike.
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#35 Jill Schaeffer 2010-03-11 14:32
Oh please stop. I recommend a book, "On Religion," by John Caputo, a Catholic philospher who teaches at Syracuse. Please do read this book. For those of you who like Augustine, particularly his Confessions, the read is easy and refreshing, sort of like a dip in a cool, clear lake. No doctrines or formulae, no question of obedience or disobedience, finger pointing, excluding or including. The thesis is terribly simple: We are hard wired to love. But what or who? And if we love God, what is it that we love when we say we love God (and do as we please). Can we cut to the chase and go home to the basics. Forget the rest: Gays, please stop pleading and whining and looking up hormones in dictionaries. Straights, stop screaming hysterically as if you knew what a human being was, is and is to be. Stop it. What do we love when we say (if we say it at all) that we love God? If there's only one answer, we loused it up, again. Lots of answers all possible. Can we ask that question. John Knox, Scott, Jennings, Rankin - all of us -let's have a chat: what do we love when we say we love God?

Stop it already.
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#34 Chas Jay 2010-03-08 19:41
Disobedience and Deceipt. Disobedience by Scott, Covenant and John Knox. To be a faithful follower of Christ, are we no longer required to be obedient? That is the message I have gotten from Scott, Covenant and John Knox. Christ never forced any to follow Him. Instead, He allows us to make the choice. If you decide to follow Christ you are to die to self and be obedient to Him. What we see in this is not an act of obedience, but one in which they are wanting the PCUSA obey them. In this act of disobedience, they are forcing their will on the church which just recently voted against this again. The PCUSA does not force them to remain in the church so why are they trying to force the church to change in their image? Perhaps they have molded a god into their image as opposed to worshipping a God that made us in His image.
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#33 Cheryl Stanford 2010-03-06 14:48
My heart breaks when I read what John Knox Presbytery is involved in an approves of. Do we no longer agree with what God's Holy Word says??? Why not open our Bibles and read: Leviticus 18: 22-30, Romans 1: 24-27, & 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. What does it say? Does it say it is ok to have same partner relationships? As far as I can read, it does not. And I am sure that God-fearing, Bible-beleiving Christians will not stay in a Church where the pastor is gay. We have all sinned. That is why Jesus had to come and pay for our wicked sins on the Cross. If I sin a certain sin, is it ok? NO, I am in the wrong and I have to pray to God to forgive me thru Jesus Christ and to ask for His help to sin no more!!! This is so sad for approval of this kind of sin in our Church leaders today...
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#32 Tom Eggebeen 2010-03-02 21:05
Good for John Knox Presbytery ... to further the cause of liberty and equality. For some, of course, it'll be one more reason to leave the church, but for others, it'll be a reason to return. Tens of thousands have left our ranks over the years because of our closed doors. Slowly, but surely, they are opening again. God be praised.
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#31 Jan Scott 2010-03-02 08:35
God's speed for the Presbytery of John Knox and Scott Anderson as you move ahead. Prayers and support are with you. Jan Scott
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